Basketball
Lorenzo Brown and Naturalize: Truths and Lies
Did Spain commit a basketball injustice with Lorenzo Brown? Are the naturalized…a FIBA scam? Yiannis Fileris seeks to provide answers to a problem that has troubled us for decades by asking the opinion of Giorgos Limniatis, who, from his experience in Georgia, knows exactly what it means to be a naturalized American in a national team
Spain won the gold medal in the Eurobasket with the two Hernangomet brothers, their coach Sergio Scariolo, their captain Rudy Fernandez, the players from the strong ACB league and one… American. Lorenzo Braun proved to be a key player, taking over the entire leadership role from Furia Rocha and was one of the central and much-discussed figures of the event even before the start of the Eurobasket.
The choice of the Spanish FA at the suggestion of Sergio Scariolo unleashed a storm of criticism even within Spain, as Roja had chosen a player who had nothing to do with the country or even the Spanish league.
The world champions appeared to emulate the smaller dynamic national sides such as Georgia, Belgium, ex-Ukraine and North Macedonia, who entrusted the crucial point guard position to a well-known American playing in Europe.
He emulated these ‘little ones’ or others, such as Russia 2007 when, led by JR Holden, he hit the bull’s eye and forced Spain to a painful defeat in the final in Madrid. The Spaniards were waiting for how and how they could finally win a gold medal in the Eurobasket, but the CSKA Moscow playmaker, to whom David Blatt had handed the reins of the Russian national team, scored just before the end of the game and left the hard-fighting team back in 2nd place (she won her first gold at a European Championship two years later in Poland).
And suddenly he opened up a conversation about… naturalization, as if we were seeing it for the first time! Neven Spahia unleashed a tirade against naturalized players, as the term translates from French, implicating Dorsey and Antetokounmpo, who weren’t exactly sure how either played for the Greece national team.
Brown’s presence was seen as a minor (or major, take that as you will) disservice to Spain’s national team, as without the American, Scariolo’s team might never have achieved the gold medal. Firstly, we don’t know and secondly, Spain thought of Brown because Ricky Rubio is recovering from surgery on his left knee, while Sergio Yule has also not been able to get over the injury problems that have plagued him all year.
For many, Spain’s move was legitimate, but it was very opportunistic and even more unfair. A player with no connection whatsoever to Iberia became one of the protagonists of the new European champions. Here is a field of glory to be unleashed, once more against the Spaniards we adore… hate.
And yet the Spaniards did no more than what the regulations stipulated, but even their own sporting culture allows the use of foreign players in their national teams.
Naturalizing à la French…
The term naturalize comes from French. Because of their colonies, the stuffy French gave away passports, whether they deserved it or not, to soccer and basketball players. More in the 70s and 80s, less in the years that followed, when the first rules for their use were defined.
Jean Tigana, who perfectly complemented Michel Platini’s French midfield, was born (in former French Sudan), Maurice Trezor was from Guadeloupe, while Christian Carrebet was born in now semi-autonomous New Caledonia.
In basketball, we briefly remember Apolo Fage, who was born in Senegal but played 80 games with the tricolors. And another center, Georges Vestris, was born on French soil in the Caribbean (Martinique).
The Spaniards, however, had started the merry-go-round of naturalizations earlier. Argentine Alfredo Di Stefano became Spanish by playing for both national teams (while in Bogotá he played in friendly matches with the Colombian national team without even having a pass). The galloping colonel of Hungary, Ferenc Puskas, also acquired a Spanish passport and when he was naturalized as a Spaniard wore the Furia Roja shirt in World Cup qualifiers.
The Spanish “moda” in basketball
Clifford Luke, “holy monster” of Real Madrid and Spanish basketball, was born in Syracuse, New York, 21 years before he was in Madrid and wore the jersey of the Merengues. From 1962 to 1978 he played basketball at Real, whose coach he later became. Very early on, not until 1968 (for the Olympic Games in Mexico) Luke had a Spanish passport and played in the Spanish national team (until 1975).
In fact, Spain have had two naturalized players in the top five since 1971, thanks to center Luke (2.03) and outstanding scorer Wayne Brabender. And he from Real, who came to Madrid in 1968, got his passport and played at the club for 11 years. At the historic 1973 silver medal, Brabender was named tournament MVP.
Later, the Spaniards gave Chico Sibillio, a year after his arrival in Barcelona from Dominica (1977), a pass to Josechu Biryukov, who had Spanish roots in two national teams (USSR, Spain, but also on the mother’s side), European champion with Badalona in the year 1994 Mike Smith.
In recent years, Sergi Ibaka (Congolese national team player) and Nikola Mirotic, who has lived permanently in Madrid since he was 14, have played in Spain’s small national teams, but outside of basketball he’s a proud Montenegrin!
Our case
Greece did not – at least – initially need naturalization of basketball players. The migration of thousands of our compatriots to America was enough to find another way to approach the homeland of basketball. The children of Greek immigrants came to play in their parents’ country in the 1970s.
Some, of course, were not even related to the resourceful agents who were willing (with compensation, of course) to find a particular municipality in New York to issue birth certificates to Greeks and non-Greeks alike.
The best of these emigrants (Giatzoglou, Kastrinakis, Diakoulas, Vidas, Mallach, Stergakos) wore the coat of arms, with one of the last of the group becoming the man who would lead us to the promised land. The son of George and Stella Galis, inductee of the Neismith Basketball Hall of Fame, now Nikos Galis…
All played as Greeks, even if they came with American passports, while at a certain point restrictions were introduced for those not born on Greek soil. So we screwed up the Korfa case in 1989 when the French found out he was born in Ohio and not Greece as the Greek FA claimed. Korfas could not compete as a native, he was considered naturalized, but the position had already been filled by David Stergako.
In the 1990s, having already exhausted the pool of US expatriates, resourceful Greeks found various ways to Greekize ordinary foreigners or gamers with a nebulous or non-existent connection to Greece (Misunov, Subotic, Pecharski, Tarlats, Tomic , Sock , Koousma, Zevrosenko, Zurpenko, Stojakovic, Jaric, Tsakalides). Only Jake Tsakalides (or Alexey Ledkov as his real name) competed in the national team.
At the turn of the century we returned to the second and third generation of expatriates from the USA. First Nick Calathes appeared, then Kostas Koufos, Mike Bramos, now we have Tyler Dorsey, then Mitrou Long (while there’s also Zach August).
What does the regulation say…
Though undeniably of Greek origin, Dorsey (and Mitrou Long) are considered naturalized. The new FIBA rule stipulates that each national team has the right to field only one player who has acquired legal citizenship through naturalization or otherwise after the age of 16. This provision also applies to players who were born with the right to acquire citizenship but did not exercise it until the age of 16.
For players who have citizenship before the age of 16 but did not produce a passport, FIBA will decide through their Secretary General on a case-by-case basis by examining place of birth, length of stay, participation in national competitions and anything else related to the affiliation with the Country proves whose national team he wants to serve. This is the case of Antetokounmpo, who of course compete like Greeks …
… and what is that (let’s say Giorgos Limniatis)
FIBA accepted the naturalizations we’ve seen over the past fifteen years, when wealthy Americans received passports from European countries just to play basketball. It could be argued that we’re doing the same thing by taking advantage of the Greek roots of every Dorsey who, if he wasn’t playing basketball, would hardly even consider getting a Greek passport. He won’t be entirely right, because even through the twisting basketball street, Dorsey returns to the land of his ancestors. What do the different McFaddens have to do with the different Georgias?
Giorgos Limniatis, who has been sitting on the National Agriculture bench alongside Ilias Zouros for six years, is one of the most qualified to answer the question and analyze all the parameters:
“FIBA has given this opportunity mainly to the small national teams, believing that it will improve competition in the major competitions. He wasn’t wrong. Since mainly players who have the ball in their hands are selected, teams like ours have obviously helped a lot. Others, like FYROM in 2011 with Bo McCaleb, made it all the way up to 4th place, as did Poland this year thanks to Slaughter.
I will tell you something. It also depends on each individual player how he integrates into the respective team. I’m going to talk about our own McFadden who really turned into a Georgian. He’s a great character and has become one with our team, on and off the pitch. The Mike Dixon we had before wasn’t like that without being a bad character. Thad is no different from the rest of the team like he’s a real Georgian.
I think the same goes for Slaughter in Poland, while Brown, despite being very new to the Spanish team, has embraced the whole philosophy of the team and bonded with the company. After all, he couldn’t have this achievement if he didn’t feel that way.
It’s not just his business, but without McFadden we certainly wouldn’t have made the progress that National Georgia has shown in recent years. We beat teams like Spain, Lithuania and Turkey. So, at the competitive level, using a naturalization helped Georgia get on the basketball map, organize a Eurobasket group and even qualify for the “16” despite the great misfortune we had with Sengelia’s injury.
There is also a longer-term benefit. As basketball grows in popularity through the national team, it means that some children, more than in the past, are stepping onto a court for the first time accompanied by an orange ball. If we find two or three players who eventually make the national team, we’ll owe it (in part) to McFadden too…”
The truth is that the subject isn’t exhausted that easily (hence the 2000 or so words you’ve already read). The Spaniards certainly did not commit a crime by picking Lorenzo Brown. Instead of this. I guess they played checkmate…
Source: sport 24
I am a sports writer and journalist who has written for various online publications including Sportish. I’m originally from the UK but currently live in Toronto, Canada. I’m also an author on Sportish and have written several articles on a variety of sports-related topics.
Basketball
Euroleague: Len’s failure, Maccabi’s defeat, Olympiacos’ hard-fought victory
Three matches were played as part of the 18th round of the Euroleague on December 26.
Partizan hosted Maccabi Tel Aviv and suffered a heavy defeat.
The home team, which started the match better, was separated from the opponent by 11 points (28:17) in the first quarter, and at the end of the first 10 minutes, they missed the 3:13 attack and reduced the difference with the opponent team to 1 point (31:30). In the second quarter, Maccabi seized the initiative and after a 14:0 move, they fell behind by 15 points, 56:41. This part of the game was decisive, since then the away team increased their advantage and achieved +33 points – 92:58 at the end of the third quarter, after which they relaxed a little and allowed the opponent to reduce the gap to the last 25 points – 87:112.
This was Maccabi’s fifth consecutive win in the Euroleague, which moved them up to 14th in the standings.
While the most productive player of the match was Walker, who scored 20 points, overall five of Maccabi’s players scored 10+ points.
Monaco had a tough home win against Real Madrid.
The Monegasques were ahead almost the entire game against Los Blancos, but they could not gain a comfortable distance. At the beginning of the third quarter, the home team had a 14-point lead, but then they missed a move at 4:14 and allowed their opponent to return to the game, and at the end of 10 minutes, Real equalized the score: 70:70. The decisive factor in the fourth quarter was Monaco’s 12:0 breakthrough towards the middle of the 10-minute period, which gave them a 12-point advantage: 87:75. After this, although the guest team reduced the gap, they did not fully return to the game. As a result, Monaco won with a score of 100:95.
Real Madrid’s Ukrainian headquarters Alexey Len He spent 6 minutes on the field and made 1 incorrect two-point shot and 1 foul during this time.
The two visiting players immediately recorded double-doubles. Tavares had 21 points and 11 rebounds, while Campazzo had 28 points and 10 assists. Okobo scored 22 points for the winners, but Monaco showed more team play; 6 home players scored 10+ points.
Virtus Bologna hosted Olympiacos and almost staged a surprising comeback in the fourth quarter.
The home team won the first quarter with a score of 25:23, but then the game went sideways and at the big break the Greeks had a 9-point advantage – 50:41, and before the last minute of the third quarter the away team was ahead +20 – 77:57. The fate of the match seemed certain, but then Virtus got back into the game with a move at 18:3. There was an even game further down the field, where the home team tried to equalize the score, but Fournier’s three-pointer with a score of 92:93 and successful free throws helped the Greeks preserve the victory, but Virtus made a three-point shot for equal score at the last second through Alston’s efforts.
Dorsey scored 23 points and Fournier scored 21 points for Olympiacos.
Europa League. Regular season. 18th round, 26 December
Partizan – Maccabi Tel Aviv – 87:112 (31:30, 12:28, 16:34, 28:20)
Partisan: Payne (15 points + 3 rebounds + 6 assists), Brown (12+2+4), Bonga (10+4+1), Jones (10+6+2), Marinkovich (9+2+1), Washington (8+1 assists), Osetkovski (8+1+3), Fernando (6+4+1), Lakic (6+1+1), Calathes (3+2+2).
maccabi: Walker (20+2+5), Sorkin (17+6+3), Leaf (14+6+1), Brissett (11+3 rebounds), Santos (10+2+2), Gord (9+4+2), Ryman (8+4 rebounds), Clark (7+3+6), Blatt (6+4+7), DiBartolomeo (5+3+1), Lundberg (3+2+2), Levy (2+1 selection).
Monaco – Reality – 100:95 (21:20, 26:23, 23:27, 30:25)
Monaco: Okobo (22+2+2), James (15+4+5), Nedovich (12+3 rebounds), Strazel (12+4 rebounds), Diallo (11+7+2), Mirotic (10+1+2), Theis (8+7+1), Blossomgame (6+4 rebounds), Hayes (4+7+1).
Real: Campazzo (28+5+10), Tavares (21+11 rebounds), Okeke (12+2 rebounds), Dec (9+4+2), Abalde (7+2 assists), Hezonja (6+5+2), Maledon (5+1+2), Procida (3), Garuba (2+2 rebounds), Kramer (2+1 rebounds).
Virtus Bologna – Olympiacos – 94:97 (25:23, 16:27, 19:27, 34:20)
virtus: Wildosa (17+2+4), Morgan (15+5 assists), Edwards (14+1+2), Diouf (12+4+1), Smailagic (9), Alston (8+2 rebounds), Niang (7+4+1), Hackett (6+3+4), Payola (4+1+4), Akele (2+1 rebounds).
OlympiacosDorsey (23+4+3), Fournier (21+1 rebounds), Vezenkov (16+5 rebounds), Milutinov (13+9+5), Peters (13+6+1), Papanikolaou (5+4+2), Walkup (2+2 assists), Ntilikina (2+1+2), Hall (2+2 assists), Morris (3 rebounds + 2 assists).
tournament table
Source: Sport UA
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OFFICIALLY. Ukraine national team player will play for the Adriatic League club
Croatian “Zadar” reported on its official website the transfer of a basketball player from the Ukrainian national team Ivan Tkachenko.
After a short trial period during which the Ukrainian player met the requirements of the coaching staff, a contract was signed with him at the end of the season.
The club has already announced that Tkachenko will participate in the Adriatic League and the Croatian Championship, so the Ukrainian can make his debut for the new team in the local championship match against Kvarner on December 27.
Tkachenko did not sign a contract with any club at the beginning of the 2025/26 season and played in only two official matches after the start of the season – as part of the Ukrainian national team, against Georgia and Denmark in November as part of the 2027 World Cup qualifiers.
Last season Ivan played for Mitteldeutscher, where he won the German Cup. The forward, who played in 32 matches in the 2024/25 Bundesliga, averaged 4.9 points and 3.8 rebounds in 17.3 minutes.
During his club career, Tkachenko played for Ukrainians Cherkasy Mavpy and Prometheus, as well as Finland’s Helsinki Seagals.
Zadar is in sixth place in the Adriatic League Group B with 4 wins in 10 matches, and is in second place in the Croatian Championship with a score of 10-1.
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Source: Sport UA
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“Start with me.” Doncic talked about what needs to change in the Lakers
Star player of Los Angeles Lakers Luka Doncic Against the background of the embarrassing defeat of Houston Rockets (96:119), he explained what the team had to change to improve the results:
“I don’t know exactly what needs to change, but something definitely needs to change. We need to figure it out, that’s what we need to do. Everyone should discuss it.”
I know JJ Redick said it would be disturbing. And that’s the way it should be.
As I said, we need to discuss this. It may be uncomfortable, but everyone needs to try harder, starting with me.
We just have to challenge each other. Everyone should challenge themselves and their teammates. “There’s no way to play the way we play, so we’ve got to be better than that.”
Source: Sport UA
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